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« Pergjigju #120 Me: Shkurt 26, 2019, 06:01:29 MD »
GEDmatch Genesis kit number per sample I3313(Dalmatia_LBA): SZ6386770

Ky duket se ishte ma afer me Shqiptaret dhe Italianet, por kishte ma shume NW shift sesa Shqiptaret dhe Italianet. Even though he is more NW shifted than Albanians, he is still closer to us than the Iron Age Bulgarian(Thracian) going by K36. Though it was expected that Proto-Illyrians were more northern shifted originally.






MDLP K23b:
#   Population   Percent
1   European_Early_Farmers   32.71
2   Caucasian   31.86
3   European_Hunters_Gatherers   23.14
4   Near_East   3.95
5   South_Central_Asian   3.72
6   North_African   2.78
7   East_Siberian   1.16
8   Arctic   0.69

Single Population Sharing:

#   Population (source)   Distance
1   Italian_Piedmont ( )   3.28
2   Italian_Tuscan ( )   3.99
3   Italian_North ( )   8.03
4   Italian_Abruzzo ( )   8.27
5   Italian_Bergamo ( )   8.32
6   Sicilian_Trapani ( )   11.63
7   Kosovar ( )   11.7
8   Greek_Northwest ( )   12.27
9   Sicilian_West ( )   12.89
10   Maltese ( )   13.31
11   Sicilian_Agrigento ( )   13.52
12   Serb_Serbia ( )   14.59
13   Sicilian_Siracusa ( )   14.69
14   Montenegrian ( )   15.46
15   German-Volga ( )   15.47
16   South_German ( )   15.56
17   Greek_Thessaly ( )   15.58
18   Albanian_Tirana ( )   15.62
19   Ashkenazi_Jew ( )   16
20   Bulgarian ( )   16.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#       Primary Population (source)   Secondary Population (source)   Distance
1       58.8%   Italian_Bergamo ( )   +   41.2%   Kosovar ( )   @   1.93
2       67.7%   Italian_Bergamo ( )   +   32.3%   Greek_Thessaloniki ( )   @   2.11
3       73.2%   Bulgarian ( )   +   26.8%   Sardinian ( )   @   2.12
4       72.7%   Kosovar ( )   +   27.3%   Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( )   @   2.15
5       84.7%   Kosovar ( )   +   15.3%   Basque_Spanish ( )   @   2.17
6       65.8%   Italian_Bergamo ( )   +   34.2%   Greek_Thessaly ( )   @   2.17
7       73.5%   Italian_Bergamo ( )   +   26.5%   Gagauz ( )   @   2.18
8       77.4%   Kosovar ( )   +   22.6%   French_South ( )   @   2.19
9       65.9%   Italian_Bergamo ( )   +   34.1%   Albanian_Tirana ( )   @   2.2
10       85.2%   Kosovar ( )   +   14.8%   Basque_French ( )   @   2.23
11       82.3%   Kosovar ( )   +   17.7%   Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( )   @   2.23
12       74%   Kosovar ( )   +   26%   Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( )   @   2.28
13       75.1%   Kosovar ( )   +   24.9%   Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( )   @   2.31
14       71.9%   Kosovar ( )   +   28.1%   Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( )   @   2.31
15       60.1%   Italian_Bergamo ( )   +   39.9%   Greek_Northwest ( )   @   2.33
16       75.2%   Kosovar ( )   +   24.8%   Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( )   @   2.35
17       71.9%   Albanian_Tirana ( )   +   28.1%   French_South ( )   @   2.38
18       69.9%   Kosovar ( )   +   30.1%   Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( )   @   2.39
19       70.2%   Italian_Bergamo ( )   +   29.8%   Central_Greek ( )   @   2.39
20       81%   Italian_Bergamo ( )   +   19%   Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( )   @   2.4

MDLP World:
#   Population   Percent
1   South_and_West_European   52.54
2   North_and_East_European   20.61
3   Caucaus_Parsia   14.69
4   Middle_East   10.95
5   Sub_Saharian   0.44
6   Mesoamerican   0.36
7   Melanesian   0.26
8   Arctic_Amerind   0.15

Single Population Sharing:

#   Population (source)   Distance
1   Italian-North   3.09
2   Italian_North   5.35
3   Kosovar   6

4   Corsican   6.22
5   Provancal   7.13
6   Romania   7.99
7   Swiss   8.93
8   Portugese   9.11
9   Bulgarian   9.23
10   Montenegrin   10.04
11   Gagauz   10.09
12   Iberian   10.36
13   Macedonian   10.74
14   Spaniard   11.06
15   Greek_North   11.44
16   Greek_South   11.89
17   French   12.41
18   Greek_Center   12.61
19   Serbian   12.76
20   Italian-Center   13.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#       Primary Population (source)   Secondary Population (source)   Distance
1       81.7%   Spaniard   +   18.3%   Georgian_Imereti   @   1.36
2       61%   Kosovar   +   39%   Bulgarian   @   1.37
3       79.8%   Spaniard   +   20.2%   Georgian_Laz   @   1.58

4       64.8%   Kosovar   +   35.2%   Macedonian   @   1.7
5       63.4%   Kosovar   +   36.6%   Gagauz   @   1.8
6       78.8%   Spaniard   +   21.2%   Georgian   @   1.8
7       81.8%   Spaniard   +   18.2%   Abhkasian   @   1.83
8       54%   Basque   +   46%   Greek_Azov   @   1.92
9       65%   Greek_North   +   35%   Basque   @   2.02
10       82.8%   Iberian   +   17.2%   Abhkasian   @   2.2
11       63.7%   Kosovar   +   36.3%   Montenegrin   @   2.24
12       90.8%   Italian-North   +   9.2%   British   @   2.31
13       85.7%   Italian-North   +   14.3%   French   @   2.32
14       80.1%   Iberian   +   19.9%   Georgian   @   2.33
15       91.3%   Italian-North   +   8.7%   Orcadian   @   2.33
16       91.3%   Italian-North   +   8.7%   CEU   @   2.38
17       87.9%   Italian-North   +   12.1%   German-South   @   2.4
18       91.9%   Italian-North   +   8.1%   Welsh   @   2.41
19       77.9%   Italian-North   +   22.1%   Provancal   @   2.43
20       93.1%   Italian-North   +   6.9%   Norwegian_V   @   2.47

Gedrosia K6:
1       68.5%   Europe_EN   +   31.5%   Steppe_EMBA   @   0.61
« Redaktimi i Fundit: Shkurt 26, 2019, 09:00:25 MD nga Ujkan Vushaj »

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« Pergjigju #121 Me: Shkurt 26, 2019, 08:56:28 MD »
Ujkan, nga ku e more këtë. Shëmbulli që është J-L283 është I4331. Sipas hartës ky shembull është I3313, i cili është nga periudha e vonshme e Bronzit dhe nuk kishte Y-DNA, pra tjetër shembull..

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« Pergjigju #122 Me: Shkurt 26, 2019, 08:59:54 MD »
Ujkan, nga ku e more këtë. Shëmbulli që është J-L283 është I4331. Sipas hartës ky shembull është I3313, i cili është nga periudha e vonshme e Bronzit dhe nuk kishte Y-DNA..
Oh na fal pra, e gjeta ne Eupedia.

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« Pergjigju #123 Me: Shkurt 26, 2019, 10:08:14 MD »
Oh na fal pra, e gjeta ne Eupedia.

Ok. Gjithsesi, edhe ky vjen nga i njëjti rajon, vetëm që është pak më i vonshëm sesa I4331. Shpresoj që edhe I4331 do vihet në GEDmatch që të shohim si duket, si dhe si krahasohet me këtë.

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« Pergjigju #124 Me: Shkurt 27, 2019, 05:51:43 MD »
I kam pas shiku keta shembuj me heret kur u dal ky studim por spo me kujtohet ky shembulli I3313, pse nuke e kan testu per Ydna, ishte femer?
Pa mare parasysh pa dyshim i takonte pjeses proto-ilire>ilire. 1500-900 BCE ne Dalmaci, ishte proto-Liburn apo proto-Dalmatae.

EDIT: Qysh e ka Gedmatch kit numrin ky shembuj? Kam dasht me shiku
« Redaktimi i Fundit: Shkurt 27, 2019, 07:48:56 MD nga Dema »

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« Pergjigju #125 Me: Shkurt 27, 2019, 07:51:08 MD »
I kam pas shiku keta shembuj me heret kur u dal ky studim por spo me kujtohet ky shembulli I3313, pse nuke e kan testu per Ydna, ishte femer?
Pa mare parasysh pa dyshim i takonte pjeses proto-ilire>ilire. 1500-900 BCE ne Dalmaci, ishte proto-Liburn apo proto-Dalmatae.

EDIT: Qysh e ka Gedmatch kit numrin ky shembuj? Kam dasht me shiku
GEDmatch Genesis kit number - SZ6386770. https://genesis.gedmatch.com/login1.php, login asht i njejte me GEDmatch

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« Pergjigju #126 Me: Shkurt 27, 2019, 09:23:55 MD »
Distancat:

Balkans_BA, I3313 @ 0
Italian_Bergamo_Averaged, Averaged @ 2.691
Italian_Bergamo, HGDP01153 @ 2.787
Italian_Bergamo, S_Bergamo-1 @ 3.096
Italian_Bergamo, HGDP01151 @ 3.149
Maros_Averaged, Averaged @ 3.179
Italian_Bergamo, HGDP01155 @ 3.241
Italy_Medieval_Collegno, CL36 @ 3.333
Balkans_BA, I4331 @ 3.342
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad, SZ28 @ 3.398
Italian_Bergamo, HGDP01147 @ 3.558
Balkans_BA_Averaged, Averaged @ 3.599
Hungary_BA, I7041 @ 3.623
Scythian_Hungary, DA198 @ 3.626
Italy_Medieval_Collegno, CL23 @ 3.712
Italian_Bergamo, HGDP01152 @ 3.779
French, French33 @ 3.863
Italian_Tuscan, NA20505 @ 3.87
Italian_Tuscan, NA20502 @ 3.881
Beaker_Italy_North_Averaged, Averaged @ 3.882
Italian_Tuscan_Averaged, Averaged @ 3.915
Beaker_Bavaria, I5524 @ 3.936
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad, SZ43 @ 3.975
Italian_Tuscan, NA20508 @ 4.009
Hungary_BA, I7043 @ 4.01
Albanian, S_Albanian-1 @ 4.12
Maros, RISE374 @ 4.143
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP11 @ 4.177
Albanian, ALB212 @ 4.19

Beaker_Bavaria, E09538 @ 4.205
Spanish_Baleares_Averaged, Averaged @ 4.217
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad, SZ37 @ 4.236
Romanian, G421 @ 4.237
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP8 @ 4.26
Albanian_Averaged, Averaged @ 4.272
Spanish_Valencia, HG01607 @ 4.277
Germany_Medieval_ACD, NW_54 @ 4.312
Greek, NA17373 @ 4.326
Macedonian, Macedonian8 @ 4.339
Albanian, ALB230 @ 4.364
Vucedol_Averaged, Averaged @ 4.372
Vucedol, I3499 @ 4.372
Spanish_Baleares, HG01625 @ 4.387
Spanish_Baleares, HG01613 @ 4.417
Italy_Medieval_Collegno, CL94 @ 4.448
Spanish_Andalucia, HG01619 @ 4.451
Bulgarian, BulgarianD6 @ 4.48
Greek, S_Greek-1 @ 4.497
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad, SZ36 @ 4.499
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP13 @ 4.531
Balkans_BA, I4332 @ 4.535
Spanish_Valencia_Averaged, Averaged @ 4.595
Spanish_Andalucia_Averaged, Averaged @ 4.596
Spanish_Baleares, HG01615 @ 4.607
Italian_Tuscan, NA20506 @ 4.628
Spanish_Valencia, HG01605 @ 4.633
Greek_Averaged, Averaged @ 4.637
Greek, NA17377 @ 4.654
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha_Averaged, Averaged @ 4.666
Maros, RISE373 @ 4.719
Beaker_Czech, I4885 @ 4.762
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP14 @ 4.765
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad, SZ32 @ 4.784
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP18 @ 4.802
French, French67 @ 4.828
Turkish_Istanbul, Istanbul25098 @ 4.854
Spanish_Cataluna, HG01537 @ 4.888
Hungary_BA_Averaged, Averaged @ 4.902
Spanish_Andalucia, HG01620 @ 4.918
Spanish_Murcia, HG01699 @ 4.929
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha, HG01746 @ 4.947
Albanian, ALB213 @ 4.955
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo16 @ 4.961
Albanian, ALB202 @ 4.963
Custom, AGUser_MassamToulouse @ 4.979
French, French36 @ 4.994
Custom, AGUser_Rabai @ 5.008
Spanish_Aragon_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.023
Custom, AGUser_flscolari @ 5.023
French, French20 @ 5.031
Romanian, A343 @ 5.036
Beaker_Bavaria, I3594 @ 5.053
French_East, French24124 @ 5.069
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha, HG01503 @ 5.079
Custom, AGUser_Fabiola @ 5.105
Beaker_Italy_North, I2478 @ 5.106
Italian_South, ITS7 @ 5.11
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP4 @ 5.117
Italian_Abruzzo_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.131
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP15 @ 5.134
French, French46 @ 5.14
Spanish_Murcia_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.144
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP9 @ 5.147
Spanish_Cantabria, HG01679 @ 5.148
Italy_Medieval_Collegno, CL57 @ 5.164
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo15 @ 5.169
Balkans_BA, I2165 @ 5.196
Spanish_Aragon, HG01673 @ 5.196
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha, HG02238 @ 5.2
Custom, AGUser_TeneTana @ 5.214
French, French4 @ 5.216
Spanish_Cantabria_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.223
Spanish_Cataluna_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.225
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP16 @ 5.226
Spanish_Aragon, HG01678 @ 5.243
Italian_Tuscan, NA20504 @ 5.252
Portuguese, Portugal9 @ 5.255
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo19 @ 5.279
Custom, AGUser_Dibran @ 5.28
Italy_Medieval_Collegno, CL47 @ 5.281
Spanish_Cantabria, HG01513 @ 5.282
Spanish_Andalucia, HG01623 @ 5.285
Custom, AGUser_Ferreira @ 5.294
French, French22 @ 5.296
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo14 @ 5.314
Bulgarian_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.314
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha, HG01504 @ 5.317
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP3 @ 5.324
Portuguese_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.336
Albanian, ALB220 @ 5.359
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo23 @ 5.371
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.38
Beaker_Hungary, I2364 @ 5.384
Spanish_Aragon, HG01676 @ 5.386
Beaker_Bavaria, I5520 @ 5.398
Bulgarian, BulgarianH2 @ 5.404
Spanish_Extremadura_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.404
Romanian_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.407
Sicilian_West, WestSicilian10H @ 5.411
Beaker_Bavaria, I5017 @ 5.424
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP5 @ 5.428
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo21 @ 5.436
Scythian_Moldova, scy197 @ 5.452
German, German66 @ 5.458
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad_o1, SZ19 @ 5.466
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad_o1_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.466
Spanish_Extremadura, HG01510 @ 5.467
Spanish_Valencia, HG01606 @ 5.48
Germany_Roman, FN_2 @ 5.483
Germany_Roman_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.483
Germany_Medieval_ACD, STR_310 @ 5.492
Italy_Medieval_Collegno, CL121 @ 5.495
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon, HG01500 @ 5.498
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad, SZ45 @ 5.499
Portuguese, Portugal12 @ 5.504
French, French7 @ 5.508
French_East, French24148 @ 5.509
Macedonian_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.529
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad, SZ18 @ 5.533
Spanish_Extremadura, HG01509 @ 5.553
French, French13 @ 5.573
French, French9 @ 5.58
Montenegrin, Montenegro6 @ 5.584
Spanish_Galicia, HG01704 @ 5.587
Romanian, G428 @ 5.596
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo22 @ 5.603
Romanian, G429 @ 5.605
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad, SZ27 @ 5.614
French, French40 @ 5.624
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon, HG01506 @ 5.627
Serbian, Serbian_Serbia4 @ 5.627
Custom, AGUser_Massam_father @ 5.648
French, French48 @ 5.66
Romanian, A325 @ 5.679
Spanish_Cantabria, HG01512 @ 5.686
Custom, AGUser_bigl @ 5.687
Portuguese, Portugal1 @ 5.694
Austrian, Austria10 @ 5.716
Portuguese, Portugal7 @ 5.719
Albanian, ALB191 @ 5.728
French_South, SouthFrench3947 @ 5.735
Custom, AGUser_Alstrohma_Wright @ 5.756
Portuguese, Portugal8 @ 5.757
Custom, AGUser_Massam @ 5.759
French, French59 @ 5.775
Portuguese, Portugal15 @ 5.777
Spanish_Pais_Vasco, HG01518 @ 5.78
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon, HG01501 @ 5.784
Macedonian, Macedonian6 @ 5.793
Spanish_Murcia, HG01617 @ 5.794
Spanish_Cataluna, HG01761 @ 5.796
Custom, AGUser_Eihwaz @ 5.809
French_South, SouthFrench1112 @ 5.815
Spanish_Extremadura, HG01527 @ 5.815
Beaker_Bavaria, I3590 @ 5.826
Portuguese, Portugal13 @ 5.827
French, French35 @ 5.835
French_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.838
Custom, AGUser_Koolmets @ 5.839
German, German2 @ 5.84
French, French55 @ 5.842
Custom, AGUser_conqueror_dad @ 5.843
Romanian, G408 @ 5.844
Balkans_IA_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.849
Balkans_IA, I5769 @ 5.849
Macedonian, Macedonian2 @ 5.85
Custom, AGUser_Ruderico @ 5.853
Portuguese, Portugal2 @ 5.857
Spanish_Murcia, HG01618 @ 5.861
Austrian, Austria4 @ 5.867
Portuguese, Portugal6 @ 5.873
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo20 @ 5.877
Scythian_Moldova_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.885
Bulgarian, Bulgaria1 @ 5.887
Belgian, Belgium25 @ 5.909
Serbian_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.91
Spanish_Aragon, HG01675 @ 5.914
Serbian, Serbian_Serbia2 @ 5.931
Anatolia_IA_low_res_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.933
Anatolia_IA_low_res, MA2197 @ 5.933
French_South, SouthFrench3326 @ 5.939
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP17 @ 5.946
French, French25 @ 5.963
Custom, AGUser_MatAust @ 5.97
French_East, French23919 @ 5.971
Hungary_BA, SZ1 @ 5.977
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo17 @ 5.982
Custom, AGUser_conqueror @ 5.985
Sicilian_West_Averaged, Averaged @ 5.997
Sicilian_West, WestSicilian7H @ 5.999
French_South_Averaged, Averaged @ 6.007
German, German48 @ 6.01
Montenegrin, Montenegro5 @ 6.011
Custom, AGUser_ChrisDNA @ 6.012
Montenegrin_Averaged, Averaged @ 6.03
French, French3 @ 6.038
Beaker_Italy_North, I1979 @ 6.039
Custom, AGUser_MassamNEFrench @ 6.045
Spanish_Murcia, HG01697 @ 6.067
German, German72 @ 6.068
Sicilian_East, EastSicilian2H @ 6.09
Basque_French, HGDP01364 @ 6.096
German, German53 @ 6.102
Portuguese, Portugal5 @ 6.108
Greek, NA17372 @ 6.11
Beaker_Switzerland_Averaged, Averaged @ 6.117
Italian_South_Averaged, Averaged @ 6.122
French, French1 @ 6.126
French, French62 @ 6.126
German, German5 @ 6.129
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP12 @ 6.134
Spanish_Galicia_Averaged, Averaged @ 6.144
Portuguese, Portugal14 @ 6.149
Scythian_Hungary, DA195 @ 6.158
French, French17 @ 6.16
French, French32 @ 6.18
French, French27 @ 6.181
Portuguese, Portugal10 @ 6.183
Italian_Abruzzo, ItalyAbruzzo13 @ 6.19
Romanian, A362 @ 6.194
Greek, GREEKGRALPOP10 @ 6.2


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« Pergjigju #127 Me: Mars 01, 2019, 01:58:24 MD »
GEDmatch Genesis kit number - SZ6386770. https://genesis.gedmatch.com/login1.php, login asht i njejte me GEDmatch

Aha po, flm Ujkan. Kam harru per kete tjeter Gedmatch.
Qishtu eshte siq i ke postu rezultatet,. I paska edhe do matches jo aq te lart GD 4 - 6.

Dua te shtoj, interesant eshte kjo lidhja me Italianet. Fiset Italike me siguri kan pas ngjajshmeri deri dikund me fiset Ilire. Por nje influence e madhe duhet te jet prej kohes Romes e pastaj, ku mund te spekulojm qe nje pjese e mire ilire kan emigru edhe jan asimilu atje. Gjithashtu edhe shembulli jone qe eshte J2-L283 sa me kujtohet ka dega vellazonre ne Itali, e sipas mendimit tim keta jan Ilir te asimiluar siq prej kohes Fiseve Italike apo me vone nen Perandorine Romake.
Siq dihet tek nesh dominon J2b-L283 edhe ketu i kemi eshnat antike. Ne Itali shumta e J2 eshte J2a, prandaj nje pjese (nuke e di saksisht sa), 10-20 %? J2b2, duhet te jet prej migrimeve Ilire prej kohve te lashta. Apo veqantarisht disa dege te aferta me shqiptar, prej migrimit shqiptar ne Itali prej kohes moderne. E kam pa ce njoni po mundohet ne Eupedia J2b2 thread me than sikurse u shpernda prej Italise, por ajo nuke ka kurrefare baze, siq shifet edhe prej komponentave autosomale edhe shume do gjera tjera sikurse TMRCA, mtDNA, edhe eshnat antike siq prej neolitit.


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« Pergjigju #129 Me: Mars 03, 2019, 01:44:59 MD »




By the looks of it, we are far closer to Bronze Age samples from Dalmatia than Bulgaria. This guy is very Steppe-shifted, nearly indistinguishable from steppe peoples, especially Srubnaya(also R-Z93). Radically different from the Iron Age Bulgarian sample.
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« Pergjigju #130 Me: Mars 15, 2019, 02:33:19 MD »
A mund dikush ti komenton keto dy rezultate proto-ilire I3313 edhe I4331 cfare gjenetike autosomale perbajn keta dy shembuj? Cfare komponenta autosomale permbajn, edhe cfare miksi? A ka donje mendim?

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« Pergjigju #131 Me: Mars 15, 2019, 09:51:25 MD »
A mund dikush ti komenton keto dy rezultate proto-ilire I3313 edhe I4331 cfare gjenetike autosomale perbajn keta dy shembuj? Cfare komponenta autosomale permbajn, edhe cfare miksi? A ka donje mendim?
Sipas ca kam lexu, kta mostra ishin rreth 60% EEF(Neolithic) dhe 30% Steppe. 10% tjeter ishte WHG+EHG

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« Pergjigju #132 Me: Mars 15, 2019, 09:52:50 MD »
Duket ca mostra P192-1(Thracian 800-500BC) nga Svilengrad ishte E-V13* http://www.open-genomes.org/analysis/E-M35/E-M35_ancient_DNA_on_the_YFull_6.01_tree.html

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« Pergjigju #133 Me: Mars 16, 2019, 01:52:33 MD »
Sipas ca kam lexu, kta mostra ishin rreth 60% EEF(Neolithic) dhe 30% Steppe. 10% tjeter ishte WHG+EHG

Shume interesant! Flm!

A e kemi edhe rezultatin autosomal  e ati E1b-L618* ce u gjind ne balkanin neolit ta kreasojme me keta dy?



Duket ca mostra P192-1(Thracian 800-500BC) nga Svilengrad ishte E-V13* http://www.open-genomes.org/analysis/E-M35/E-M35_ancient_DNA_on_the_YFull_6.01_tree.html

A eshte e konfirmume?  Shume mire se E-v13 nuke ka pas mjaft nafak me aDNA, ndersa duhet te gjinded edhe tek Mikenet edhe tek Iliret por shkaku i pake eshnave te testuar nuke ka pas ende rezultat.
Kjo aDNA trake eshte shume nje aDNA simpatike. Me preardhje trake ishin edhe perandoret e romes Maximinus Thrax edhe Galerius.



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« Pergjigju #134 Me: Mars 16, 2019, 05:38:28 MD »
Shume interesant! Flm!

A e kemi edhe rezultatin autosomal  e ati E1b-L618* ce u gjind ne balkanin neolit ta kreasojme me keta dy?



A eshte e konfirmume?  Shume mire se E-v13 nuke ka pas mjaft nafak me aDNA, ndersa duhet te gjinded edhe tek Mikenet edhe tek Iliret por shkaku i pake eshnave te testuar nuke ka pas ende rezultat.
Kjo aDNA trake eshte shume nje aDNA simpatike. Me preardhje trake ishin edhe perandoret e romes Maximinus Thrax edhe Galerius.
Shembulli E-L618 dot jete shume afer me Sardinians sic ishin krejt ne kohen e Neolitit. Por Nuk e di a ka autosomal results. Sipas ati pemes, ishte konfirmu si V13*.